You won’t hear silly, ineffective nonsense like “cut your saturated fat,” or “move more, eat less,” “everything in moderation,” or “take a statin drug” around here—you know, the advice that keeps heart disease the #1 killer of Americans and keeps doctors and hospital busy making plenty of money.
Here are the strategies that I used for many years in thousands of patients based on published (but often under appreciated) science that achieved reversal of heart disease in the majority.
Looks like the latest posts aren’t showing up on the Undoctored blog home page, although they are on the WB blog homepage. More work for the website administrator.
Stuart wrote: «Looks like the latest posts aren’t showing up on the Undoctored blog home page…»
Yep. Reported. This is different from the recent problems on the WB Blog, which was stale cache. In this case, posts and comments are being served & emailed, but the index page isn’t being updated (or is, but is being served stale).
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Getting started on Undoctored program for a couple weeks, already sleeping better and feeling better. Dr. Davis posted the benefits of CT hearts scan that give a calcium score for under $200 private pay. Can you advise what steps you should go to set up a scan? I do not have a physician, and where I live near Green Bay ,Wisconsin there are 4 hospitals. What department in a hospital do you ask to book an appointment, or to find out if that particular hospital does these CT scans?
Your help in this matter will be appreciated. I am a 57 year old white male. If I should be asking this on inner circle please specifically advise me where to do so ….
Patrick wrote: «Can you advise what steps you should go to set up a scan?»
You can often just call them on the phone and make an appointment. Always worth checking to see if it can be done on-line, of course.
re: «…I live near Green Bay ,Wisconsin…»
A long-standing member of subscription site, since it was TYP, has been using one or both of these sites to track his score reduction:
320 slice machine at Bellin Hospital Green Bay, Wi
320 slice machine at Aurora Bay Area Health Marinette, Wi
re: «If I should be asking this on inner circle…»
If you are member, you can see the entire discussion thread, but even non-members can see the basenote, and the the reply I quoted.
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I gather from the comments on the forum post that the OP ptheut is the PJT that sells Koncentrated K. 25gm of MK-4! And I thought I was mega-dosing on 5mg of the Carlson product. Is there any feedback on the forum from people who’ve used his product?
In reading PJT’s history it’s interesting that he came to many of the same conclusions as Dr Davis before reading the WB book and becoming Dr D’s patient. If an engineer can find this out researching in his spare time, what excuse does the medical profession have for being so ignorant?
Stuart wrote: «I gather from the comments on the forum post that the OP ptheut is the PJT that sells Koncentrated K.»
You have connected the dots. Pat also has a bunch of videos on YouTube (not all of which I’ve seen). Consensus care predicted his demise to occur not later than 2008. One of the MDs actually lost a cash bet over that.
re: «25gm of MK-4! And I thought I was mega-dosing on 5mg of the Carlson product.»
The most recent official program posture on K2 (MK-4, MK-7) might be this:
FAQ: Should I take vitamin K2?
Note that the (optional) product suggested there is Life Extension Super-K. K2 is not a program core supplement, but seems to be the first optional supplement added, perhaps principally by those working a CVD concern.
re: «Is there any feedback on the forum from people who’ve used his product?»
Super-K and Koncentrated-K appear to be the top two products used by members. I don’t recall any adverse reactions reported for either, although both are likely contraindicated if warfarin or heparin are in use.
re: «If an engineer can find this out researching in his spare time, what excuse does the medical profession have for being so ignorant?»
The MDs attended seminary, and you didn’t, so how dare you question the dogma.
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Pat’s YouTube videos are those from the Wausau Wellness Centre? I’ll have to take a look.
Oops! 25gm should read 25mg of MK-4. Regarding adverse reactions, apparently there have been some cases of intestinal upset at the 45mg doses used in Japan but otherwise not much. On Ford Brewer’s YouTube channel there was some discussion about whether dissolving the calcium cap on plaque with K2 would destabilise it and risk it rupturing. I don’t know whether that’s the case but it does prompt the thought that taking K2 might reduce the calcification without necessarily reducing the plaque, giving a false reading of plaque regression. A CIMT ultrasound measures soft plaque where a calcium scan does not. However I remember reading that CIMT results can vary depending on the skill of the operator so different scans may not be comparable. Does Dr Davis have a view on CIMT?
Re warfarin, it seems that every elderly person is prescribed it with complete disregard of the side effects of osteoporosis and arterial calcification. I know Dr Davis says that a lot of patients report their Afib reduces or disappears with wheat elimination and adequate magnesium. Unfortunately, mainstream medicine seems to think once diagnosed with Afib you’re on warfarin for life.
“The MDs attended seminary, and you didn’t, so how dare you question the dogma.”
Thank goodness they no longer burn heretics!
Stuart wrote: «Pat’s YouTube videos are those from the Wausau Wellness Centre?»
That sounds like it. There may be others from LC or ancestral health conferences.
re: «A CIMT ultrasound measures soft plaque where a calcium scan does not.»
My understanding that the CAC scan is a more accurate index of total plaque than CIMT.
re: «Does Dr Davis have a view on CIMT?»
Carotid intimal-medial thickness has come up often on the subscription forum. My impression is that it’s better than nothing (if you can’t get a CAC for any of several reasons). The test itself varies. The freebie scan in the van at the MegaMart parking lot this weekend is likely the least useful.
CIMT might have particular value in tracking a zero CAC, where you aren’t going to run another CAC for years. Upon earning the zero CAC, get a baseline CIMT shortly thereafter, and then get one or more additional CIMTs in between CACs.
re: «I know Dr Davis says that a lot of patients report their Afib reduces or disappears with wheat elimination and adequate magnesium.»
The Inner Circle site has a helpful Protocol for AF, which principally (but not entirely) consists of: do the program. It’s a prevention protocol. Active episodes require prompt medical intervention.
re: «Unfortunately, mainstream medicine seems to think once diagnosed with Afib you’re on warfarin for life.»
Chronic warf is sometimes unavoidable, such as in the wake of certain surgeries, but this quite-literal rat poison is highly worth avoiding where possible (particularly while we wait for the K2 picture to crystallize).
“for life”, of course, is Standard of Don’t Care for most meds. You’ll perhaps have noticed that FDA required dosing information, for chronic meds, does not require discussion of a routine discontinuance protocol for ailment remission (it does for adverse reactions and interactions). Januvia is apparently assumed to be a lifetime commitment.
re: «Thank goodness they no longer burn heretics!»
I don’t know about your planet, but mine still has regions under the control of medieval cutthroat cult thugocracies that do that, and of course even the “civilized” professional guilds have polite metaphorical immolations that are fairly effective at silencing truth tellers who failed to appreciate the consequences of poking those sleeping dogs.
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“Januvia is apparently assumed to be a lifetime commitment.”
Prescribing info (per Wikipedia):
“Hypersensitivity reactions including anaphylaxis, angioedema, rash, urticaria, cutaneous vasculitis, and exfoliative skin conditions including Stevens-Johnson syndrome; hepatic enzyme elevations; acute pancreatitis, including fatal and nonfatal hemorrhagic and necrotizing pancreatitis; worsening renal function, including acute renal failure (sometimes requiring dialysis); severe and disabling arthralgia; constipation; vomiting; headache; myalgia; pain in extremity; back pain; pruritus; pemphigoid.”
Hmm, fatal or nonfatal pancreatitis, acute renal failure and disabling arthralgia – a small price to a pay in order to “lower HbA1c level by about 0.7% points”. It’s a wonder drug, right up there with life-saving statins! Or of course you could just cut out the sugars and starches you put in your mouth. But no, that would be dangerous – as any dietitian will tell you.
“the “civilized” professional guilds have polite metaphorical immolations that are fairly effective at silencing truth tellers”
Yep, heresy trials are still in vogue as Tim Noakes and Gary Fettke know to their cost. You may not get burnt alive you just get bankrupted by legal fees and/or lose your livelihood.
You might recall that our ABC’s Catalyst science program produced a 2-part doco a few years back called “The Heart of the Matter” which questioned the consensus diet and the efficacy of statins. This provoked a storm of protests from the mainstream docs and the usual claims that “thousands will die” if they stopped taking their statins. A subsequent inquiry exonerated the program against all but one trivial complaint.
Nevertheless, the spineless ABC management announced some time later that they were cancelling the show and making the staff redundant, despite the fact that it was one of their best-rating programs. After public protests they reinstated the program but with completely new staff, who presumably got the message not to make waves.
Re my previous query about arrhythmia: I did a search on the Cureality blog and came across a number of people reporting that supplementing magnesium quelled their arrhythmia. Not one of their cardiologists ever mentioned Mg at all, simply jumped to drugs as the first treatment. The Cureality posts also lead me to a 2005 Life Extension Magazine article by Dr Davis on preventing arrhythmia where he recommends both Mg and fish oil. He Afibbers website also lists a number of studies where Mg and/or fish oil reduced fibrillation. Seems to me they should be the first steps in treatment before going to drugs.
Stuart wrote: «…supplementing magnesium quelled their arrhythmia. Not one of their cardiologists ever mentioned Mg at all…»
By now, I’m sure this is not a surprise.
re: «… Afibbers website also lists a number of studies where Mg and/or fish oil reduced fibrillation.»
My impression is that there are a lot of former or contemporaneous TYP/Cureality members there.
re: «Seems to me they should be the first steps in treatment before going to drugs.»
We might say that’s be step 0 in being undoctored. If what you have is an optional ailment, first opt to not have it. AF, it must be noted, might presently be optional in only some fraction of cases, but it’s worth winding down the provocations in any event.
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The list of ailments where correcting nutritional deficiencies (or excess) should be the first line of defence seem endless. Just off the top of my head:
– Afib with Mg and fish oil
– arthritis with boron
– hypothyroidism with iodine, zinc and selenium
– high parathyroid hormone with Vit D & K2
– diabetes with fasting and LCHF
– dementia prevention with B6, B12 & folate
While these approaches may not cure all cases, they’d certainly eliminate most of them. But not many $ in that for Big Pharma & Big Medicine.
I recently picked up a second-hand copy of Dead Doctors Don’t Lie by Joel Wallach, a zoo veterinarian turned naturopathic doctor. While I have a few doubts about his Multi-Level Marketing activities (aka pyramid selling) he does make some good points. Farmers and vets pay a lot of attention to correcting mineral deficiencies in the soils and feed of their animals to keep them healthy, but when it comes to human food this all gets ignored. It is just blithely assumed that you get all the nutrients you need from the mythical balanced diet, but if the soils don’t contain the minerals that ain’t going to happen.
Incidentally, that’s one of the major fallacies of the Locavore proponents who claim you should only eat food grown in your immediate area. If the local soils are deficient in a mineral (eg selenium)\, guess what? You’ll be deficient too. And back in the days when you only had “local food” available, when the crops failed you died of starvation. More sustainable my ass.
Stuart wrote: «The list of ailments where correcting nutritional deficiencies (or excess) should be the first line of defence seem endless.»
The Undoctored book, on pages 16-18 of the print edition, lists about 100 conditions addressed by the program (followed by several classes that are not). Most of the “addressed” conditions strike me as falling under my notion of optional ailments. Opt to not have them. Don’t assume it’s not reversible, if you’ve already got one.
re: «But not many $ in that for Big Pharma & Big Medicine.»
There’s almost no business model for effective prevention today, and remediation by natural means doesn’t fare much better. Sickness can be “treated” profitably — health can’t. Well, maybe it could: “Nice helt ya got dere. Be a shame if anything shud, like, happin to it.”
re: «Incidentally, that’s one of the major fallacies of the Locavore proponents who claim you should only eat food grown in your immediate area.»
I’d not heard of that particular whimsy before. It’s probably possible to make some case, by genotype, for ancestral foods, grown on un-despoiled ancestral grounds. But since few now live there, where “there” even really still exists (not to mention ancestral cultivars), we instead really need to puzzle out what we really need. Mixed ancestry moderns, of course, don’t even have ancestral foods or grounds.
re: «…when the crops failed you died of starvation.»
We may eventually discover what killed off the Neanderthals and Denisovans. Agriculture, per se, may have played a role.
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Bob Niland wrote: “I’d not heard of that particular whimsy before”
Lucky you. From the Wikipedia article “Local Food”:
“A “locavore” or “localvore” (the term is a neologism) is a person interested in eating food that is locally produced, not moved long distances to market. One common – but not universal – definition of “local” food is food grown within 100 miles (160 km) of its point of purchase or consumption.[13] The locavore movement in the United States and elsewhere was spawned as a result of interest in sustainability and eco-consciousness becoming more prevalent.[14] The word “locavore” was the word of the year for 2007 in the Oxford American Dictionary.[15] The suffix “vore” comes from the Latin word vorare (as in “devour”), and is used to form nouns indicating what kind of a diet an animal has. This word was the creation of Jessica Prentice of the San Francisco Bay Area at the time of World Environment Day 2005.[16] It may be rendered “localvore”, depending on regional differences.”
As seems to be the case with most of Green ideology, this is a typical half-baked idea that sounds good on the surface but is totally illogical. Like using farmland to grow corn to turn into ethanol to feed to cars, with the result that food prices have gone up worldwide. How many poor people in 3rd world countries have to starve to please well-off environmentalists and enrich farmers in developed countries?
“We may eventually discover what killed off the Neanderthals and Denisovans. Agriculture, per se, may have played a role.”
I’ve read that the skeletons of Neanderthals resemble modern rodeo riders with numerous healed fractures – and those are the ones that survived their injuries. This suggests that they were getting up close and personal with the animals they were hunting rather than launching missile weapons from some distance. Getting close enough to an angry mammoth or bison to jam a spear between its ribs has got to have resulted in a significant death rate among Neanderthals. Whereas the evidence of spearthrowers (atlatl or woomera) everywhere from Britain to Australia and the Americas suggests that modern humans were already using them when they emerged from Africa. The greater success in hunting and lower death rate would have allowed Cro Magnon populations to expand faster than Neanderthals, in turn creating more hunting pressure on the game and reducing hunting success. Regardless of whether the two species fought each other, the competitive pressure from more efficient hunters must have been deleterious. And of course if they did fight the spear chuckers would most likely win.
Agriculture came around long after the Neanderthals died out. What agriculture did do was help eliminate modern human hunter-gatherers in all the areas suitable for agriculture. Hunter-gatherer societies have customs such as extended breastfeeding that limit them to a steady-state population so as not to exceed the food supply. Agriculture changed the equation since for a farmer more children means more labour to grow more food. So farming populations outnumbered the H-Gs and pushed them out. The only places that didn’t happen were those where the farmers had not yet arrived – Australia and the Cape region of South Africa – at least until the farmers did arrive in the form of European settlement.